Running a Fortigate 60E-DSL on 6.2.3. We get a " no session matched" (log_id=0038000007) message several thousand times a day for various different connections on our Fortigate 310B (4.0 MR3 patch 9) I believe this is caused by the anti replay setting which we could disable but I wanted to ask if it is safe to disable this setting If you're not using FSSO to authorize users to policies, you can just turn it off, Exclude the specific host or server from the FSSO updates via reg key on the FSSO collectorhttps://kb.fortinet.com/kb/documentLink.do?externalID=FD45566, On a side note, if anyone has a way to get the full text from a Bug ID. flag [F.], seq 3948000680, ack 1192683525, win 229"id=20085 trace_id=41913 func=resolve_ip_tuple_fast line=5720 msg="Find an existing session, id-5e847d65, original direction"id=20085 trace_id=41913 func=ipv4_fast_cb line=53 msg="enter fast path"id=20085 trace_id=41913 func=ip_session_run_all_tuple line=6922 msg="DNAT 111.111.111.248:18889->10.16.6.35:18889"id=20085 trace_id=41913 func=ip_session_run_all_tuple line=6910 msg="SNAT 100.100.100.154->10.16.6.254:45742"id=20085 trace_id=41914 func=print_pkt_detail line=5639 msg="vd-root:0 received a packet(proto=6, 10.16.6.35:18889->10.16.6.254:45742) from Server_V166. I believe this is caused by the anti replay setting which we could disable but I wanted to ask if it is safe to disable this setting or if there is some other setting which could be causing this message to be logged so many times per day. 05:53 AM, Created on WebGo to FortiView > All Sessions. Super odd because even with the bad brick in everything at the end of the ptp link was showing up and talking, web traffic just wouldn't work. You can have a dedicated policy for just Internet and enable NAT as needed and more policies for internal-to-internal traffic that are setup differently to meet your needs. The fortigate is not directly connected to the internet. It didn't appear you have any of that enabled in the one policy you shared so that should be okay. 2018-11-01 15:58:45 id=20085 trace_id=2 func=fw_forward_dirty_handler line=324 msg="no session matched". When i removed the NAT from that policy they dropped off. I have read about the issue with the 5.2 version and the 0 policy number dropping but i am way back at 4.0.. Why can my radio's communicate but nothing else can? Thanks. diagnose debug flow trace start 10000 Reasons such as off-topic, duplicates, flames, illegal, vulgar, or students posting their homework. Figured out why FortiAPs are on backorder. 08-07-2014 Too many things at one time! 2018-11-01 15:58:35 id=20085 trace_id=1 func=vf_ip_route_input_common line=2583 msg="find a route: flag=04000000 gw-192.168.102.201 via WAN_Ext" You have a complete three-way TCP handshake and a connection close at the end (due to telnet not being an actual web browser). 07:04 AM, i need some assistance, one of my voice systems are trying to talk out the wan to a collector, after running a debug i see the following, # 2018-11-01 15:58:35 id=20085 trace_id=1 func=print_pkt_detail line=4903 msg="vd-root received a packet(proto=6, 10.250.39.4:4320->10.202.19.5:39013) from Voice_1. One possible reason is that the session was closed according to the "tcp-halfclose-timer" before all data had been sent for that session. Thinking it looked to be a session timer of some kind, I examined the Fortigate policies from the GUI admin page, but couldnt find anything labeled hey dummy, heres the setting thats timing out your sessions. *If this is in the GUI, I certainly do not possess patience levels high enough to take the time to find it, but feel free to point me to its location in the comments. While this process works, each image takes 45-60 sec. Most of the traffic must be permitted between those 2 segments. 04-08-2015 Security networking with a side of snark. The CLI showed the full policy (output abbreviated), including the set session-ttl: A session-ttl of 0 says use the default which in my case was 300 seconds. By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://kb.fortinet.com/kb/documentLink.do?externalID=FD45566. { same hosts, same ports,same seq#,etc..), The log sample seems to indicate these are a loop of the same traffic flow, https://forum.fortinet.com/tm.aspx?m=112084, The Fortinet Security Fabric brings together the concepts of convergence and consolidation to provide comprehensive cybersecurity protection for all users, devices, and applications and across all network edges.. It's apparently fixed in 6.2.4 if you want to roll the dice. TCP sessions are affected when this command is disabled. This means that your clients and netstat output will still show a connection state of 'ESTABLISHED' while your Fortigate debugs will show 'No session found', meaning the service needs to wait for the TCP timeouts to I know how to map a network drive either through script or gpo. Shannon, Hi, From what I can tell that means there is no policy matching the traffic. and in the traffic log you will see deny's matching the try. The only users that we see have disconnect issues use Macs. The database server clearly didnt get the last of the web servers packets. We have a corp office 4 hotels and 3 restaurants. flag [. The problem only occurs with policies that govern traffic with services on TCP ports. 06:30 AM, The Fortinet Security Fabric brings together the concepts of convergence and consolidation to provide comprehensive cybersecurity protection for all users, devices, and applications and across all network edges.. An IT Technical Blog (Cisco/Brocade/Check Point/etc), Studies in Data Center Networking, Virtualization, Computing by @bradhedlund, Virtualization, Storage, Community by @mattvogt. Maybe you could update the FOS to 4.3.17, just to make sure4.3.9 is quite old. Hi All, Honestly I am starting to wonder that myself.. If you have an active session with a specific src/dst ip and src/dst port, all traffic matching those ips and ports will be matched to that session and no new session will be created even if the client attempts to create one, while the old one is active. This means that your clients and netstat output will still show a connection state of 'ESTABLISHED' while your Fortigate debugs will show 'No session found', meaning the service needs to wait for the TCP timeouts to Hi, I am hoping someone can help me. I was wondering about that as well but i can't find it for the life of me! We have received your request and will respond promptly. Already a member? I have two WAN connections connected to WAN and DMZ as an SD-WAN interface with SD-WAN policy of session although this seems to make no difference. Works fine until there are multiple simultaneous sessions established. 08-09-2014 Another option is that the session was cleared incorrectly, but for that, we would need to full session (when session was established) to see what is the To do this, you will need: The source IP address (usually your computer) The destination IP address (if you have it) The port number which is determined by the program you are using. I have two WAN connections connected to WAN and DMZ as an SD-WAN interface with SD-WAN policy of session although this seems to make no difference. interfaces=[port2] Don't omit it. The command I shared above will only show you pings to IP 8.8.8.8 specifically which happens to be one of their DNS servers. There is otherwise no limit on speed, devices, etc on an unlicensed Fortigate. https://kb.fortinet.com/kb/documentLink.do?externalID=FD47765, https://docs.fortinet.com/document/fortigate/6.2.3/fortios-release-notes/517622/changes-in-cli-defaults, 'hello to the party' :), I believe this is a known issue of 6.2.3Try to fix it by adjusting tcp-mss on the policy where you have NAT enabled towards internetset tcp-mss-sender 1452set tcp-mss-receiver 1452, If that doesn't help - downgrade to 6.2.2. This means that your clients and netstat output will still show a connection state of 'ESTABLISHED' while your Fortigate debugs will show 'No session found', meaning the service needs to wait for the TCP timeouts to occur before building a new session. It is eftpos / point of sale transaction traffic. Get the connection information. Anyway, if the server gets confused, so will most likely the fortigate. That trace looks normal. Alsoare you running RDP over UDP. In your case, we would need to see traffic for this session: 100.100.100.154:38914->111.111.111.248:18889. This topic has been locked by an administrator and is no longer open for commenting. ], seq 3567147422, ack 2872486997, win 8192" All functions normal, no alarms of whatsoever om the CM. If you can share some config snippets from the command line it will help build a picture of your current setup. There is otherwise no limit on speed, devices, etc on an unlicensed Fortigate. To find your session, search for your source IP address, destination IP address (if you have it), and port number. Thanks for the reply. dirty_handler / no matching session. Created on My most successful strategy has been to take up residence in Wireshark Land, where the packets dont lie and blame-storming takes a back burner. I opened a ticket and was able to get a post 6.2.3 build that fixed this in two separate setups. Would this also indicate a routing issue? Common ports are: Port 80 (HTTP for web browsing) Since the last upgrade of the Fortigate to v4.0,build0691 (MR3 Patch 6), all traffic between IPSI and CM server (in different VLAN) is denied. id=13 trace_id=101 func=resolve_ip_tuple_fast line=4299 msg="vd-root received a packet Hi, we are using a Avaya CM 6.2. Once it was back in they started working. With traffic going outbound again from Fortigate, it tries to match an existing session which fails because inbound traffic interface has changed. 08:45 AM, The Fortinet Security Fabric brings together the concepts of convergence and consolidation to provide comprehensive cybersecurity protection for all users, devices, and applications and across all network edges.. If you can't communicate with internal servers than it's probably a software firewall on the servers causing an issue (ie Windows Firewall itself) and just have to make sure have the necessary rules there, too, to allow traffic inbound from what it might consider "foreign subnets" which Windows will take to mean "internet". "706023 Restarting computer loses DNS settings." FortiGate v6.2 Description When ecmp or SD-WAN is used, the return traffic or inbound traffic is ending up on a different interface. WebNo session timeout To allow clients to permanently connect with legacy medical applications and systems that do not have keepalive or auto-reconnect features, the session timeout can be set to never for firewall services, policies, and VDOMs. Created on 11-01-2018 09:24 AM Options This came up a whiel since they are "Ack" and no session in the table, fortigate is dropping the session Do you see a pattern? Our problem is : Every communication initiate from outside to inside doesn't appear in the Policy session monitor. Thinking it looked to be a session timer of some kind, I examined the Fortigate policies from the GUI admin page, but couldnt find anything labeled hey dummy, heres the setting thats timing out your sessions. Common ports are: Port 80 (HTTP for web browsing) Most of the traffic must be permitted between those 2 segments. Deploying QoS for Cisco IP and Next Generation Networks: The interface Embedded-Service-Engine0/0 no ip address shutdown! To slow down the scroll and not get overwhelmed you could use 'telnet' to connect to a remote server on port 80 which just gets a few packets going back and forth to see if the connection will establish. 06-14-2022 08:04 PM By joining you are opting in to receive e-mail. To troubleshoot a web session you could run that diagnose filter command and modify to look for port 80 and 443: Modify the IP address to an actual web server you're going to test connect to. If you try to browse the you get a page can not be displayed message. We had to upgrade the firmware for our site. Thanks. *Tek-Tips's functionality depends on members receiving e-mail. FortiGate Next Generation Firewall utilizes purpose-built security processors and threat intelligence security services from FortiGuard labs to deliver top-rated protection and high performance, including encrypted traffic. Let's run a diagnostic command on the Fortigate to see what's going on behind the scenes. I have looked through the output but I cannot see anything unusual. The policy ID is listed after the destination information. any recommendation to fix it ? Thanks! Has anyone else got an issue with this and can you suggest where I should be looking to fix it? No most of these connections are dropped between 2 directly connected network segments (via the Fortigate) so there is only a single route available between the segments. The "No Session Match" will appear in debug flow logs when there is no session in the session table for that packet. Hey all, Getting an error from debug outbput: fw-dirty_handler" no session matched" We have multiple clients sending the same type of traffic to a single public IP address using destination NAT using the interface IP (so 1 to 1 NAT). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Probably a different issue. It didn't appear you have any of that enabled in the one policy you shared so that should be okay. 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